starting gourd rack
Need some advice on the rack and gourds I plan on buying. I am thinking of getting the Big Bo Gourd and 6 gourd rack that fits on tri-tel-pole. Please give me pro's and cons to this set up. Thanks
Last edited by D'Nese on Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
D'Nese in Tennessee
2009-new house up, many visitors no one stayed
2010-3 pairs, 14 eggs, 9 babies 9 fledged
2011 20 pairs, 106 eggs, 79 fledged
2012 37 pair, 120 fledged
2013 37 pair, 173 fledged
2009-new house up, many visitors no one stayed
2010-3 pairs, 14 eggs, 9 babies 9 fledged
2011 20 pairs, 106 eggs, 79 fledged
2012 37 pair, 120 fledged
2013 37 pair, 173 fledged
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Emil Pampell-Tx
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Not sure what you are planning to get, but the 6 gourd rack is nice on the tri-tel pole and is a good starter pole.
About the house, I would not attach a house to that pole if you plan to have 6 gourds under it, that may be too much weight for the pole, but you could always check with the mfg before you purchase it to see if its compatible.
About the house, I would not attach a house to that pole if you plan to have 6 gourds under it, that may be too much weight for the pole, but you could always check with the mfg before you purchase it to see if its compatible.
PMCA Member, 250 gourds, 6 poles, 2traps
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John Miller
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Suggest a starter rack with a rope and pully system; ideally a two-inch square pole. The PMCA sells starter poles, or you can do a google search too. Just search for two-inch square gourd rack, purple martin. The pole is a vital component and most telescopic poles are limited in strength and can eventually bend in a storm, plus can seriouisly pinch your fingers when you lower.
John Miller
John Miller
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DNese I bought that very set up last year. Tri tel pole and six big Bo gourds. I have been very pleased. You can't go wrong with that. But I agree with previous post. I would not put a house and the gourds on that pole together. Mike. [/i]
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flyin-lowe
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I personally would save a little money and get a little sturdier system. I started out with a Tri Tel pole and the smallest house that S&K makes. It was bent after the first season. Luckily for me the store I bought it from replaced it for me. The next year I switched to a T14 but I used the brand new Tri Tel pole and put the perching station on it. The perch basically weighs nothing and also does not catch any air like gourds and a house will. After one year of being up the pole is starting to bend a little just from the wind on the pole, with only the perches on it. I know lots of people have started colonies with the tri tel poles however it is only a matter of time before the pole will bend to the point that you can't raise and lower it. I live in Indiana and we usually have some decent wind and storms but it is not as windy as some other parts of the country.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
I have two of those systems - each with 6 gourds and a plastic house. I have never had a problem but they are not convenient at all. The plastic pins that keep the poles from sliding are very fragile; lifting the pole up and down is a pain and if it slips through your hand can result in broken eggs and injured chicks. I built a new system last year with a pulley and T-14 and gourds. Its much better. I still use both of my tri-tel systems that I bought as combos but probably wouldn't do it again.
2014 - 31 breeding pair, 165 fledged
2013 - 36 breeding pair, 178 fledged
2012 - 35 Breeding Pair, 154 hatched, 14 eggs left
2011 - 26 Breeding Pair, 119 eggs, 93 hatchlings so far!
2010 - 21 breeding pair, 93 eggs, 60 hatchlings. 2009 - 4 breeding Pairs, 19 eggs, 18 fledged
2013 - 36 breeding pair, 178 fledged
2012 - 35 Breeding Pair, 154 hatched, 14 eggs left
2011 - 26 Breeding Pair, 119 eggs, 93 hatchlings so far!
2010 - 21 breeding pair, 93 eggs, 60 hatchlings. 2009 - 4 breeding Pairs, 19 eggs, 18 fledged
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GeneP
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- Martin Colony History: 1 gourd rack with 24 gourd capacity. 2018, my 11th year hosting martins.
18 pair in 2017.
I've had a couple of tri-tel poles, no real complaints. I did overload mine which made it difficult to do nest checks. Eventually I upgraded to a multigourd rack with a winch. Right now it holds 12 gourds but I can expand to another 12 whenever I'm ready. I would be dollars ahead if I had gone this route to begin with.
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Carlton
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- Martin Colony History: I moved to South Florida, from Delaware, in August of 2015.
I care for a 6 condo Sunset House as well as two Deluxe Gourd Racks, with 24 Chirpynest/Excluder gourds, along a canal in Pompano Beach, Florida.
At Quiet Waters Park, nearby in Deerfield Beach, I care for a Deluxe Gourd Rack with 12 TVG's. I also care for a Deluxe Gourd rack with 12 Excluder gourds with Modified Excluder entrances. I am substituting 6 Chirpynest boxes for 6 of the Conley II entranced gourds in 2026.
At another local park, Tradewinds Park in Coconut Creek, I care for a Trendsetter 12, 5 gourds rack with 60 Excluder gourds with Modified Excluder Entrances and 1 Deluxe Gourd Rack with 12 Troyer Vertical Gourds with Starling Stoppers over the Conley II's to keep out smaller starlings.
I SO AGREE with John Miller's comments. He is right on target.
Good luck this season!
Good luck this season!
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Jeremy Shuler
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I had one of these last season and the arms on the rack started bending under the weight of the gourds with nesting materials. and my pole eventually bent under the always changing weather of Missouri
Jeremy Shuler
2009-housing up late 1 SY male for a month
2010-2 ASY pairs- fledged 9
2011- 5 ASY pairs building nests and 2 SY pairs several SY males
2009-housing up late 1 SY male for a month
2010-2 ASY pairs- fledged 9
2011- 5 ASY pairs building nests and 2 SY pairs several SY males
