Hi everyone,
I just bought a house sparrow trap in the event that a pair decides to nest in my martin house. I do want to buy a gun, too, so that I can shoot them if I have to in order to minimize any chances of a take over. I don't want to shoot but I will do what ever it takes to protect the martins and the blue birds. Can any one give me a recommendation on the type of gun (BB, pellet-name, model) that is accurate and reliable?
Thanks,
Jerry
House sparrow control
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C.C.Martins
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- Location: Corpus Christi Tx
- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Depends on your distances you need, neighbors, bb or pellets. I bought two cheepos no accuracy. Get what u pay for i suppose. I bought a nice crossman bb gun with elevated rear sights from walmart. Does the job, very accurate...only get one shot most times. Plus i have near neighbors.
Good luck this season,
Tom
Good luck this season,
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
You will find over time that trapping is more effective.
Sparrows are a lot smaller than Starlings.
If you shoot at one once and miss (he will still live in your colony) but you won't get a 2nd chance at shooting him.
Sparrows are a lot smaller than Starlings.
If you shoot at one once and miss (he will still live in your colony) but you won't get a 2nd chance at shooting him.
Colony started in 2002
Offering 82 Troyer Horizontal Gourds
2018 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 203 MARTINS
2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
2021 - 78 PAIR - FLEDGED 349 MARTINS
2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
2023 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 355 MARTINS
*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
Offering 82 Troyer Horizontal Gourds
2018 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 203 MARTINS
2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
2021 - 78 PAIR - FLEDGED 349 MARTINS
2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
2023 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 355 MARTINS
*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
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flyin-lowe
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A good quality pellet gun capable of consistently shooting a target the size of a sparrow at any distance is pretty costly. They are smart little critters, like others have said if you shoot once and mis they will then take off every time you open a door or a window. If you want to put in the money and practice time they are a good tool to have, but is you think you can go to Wal Mart and buy a 100.00 gun and kill sparrows with it that likely won't happen. I am fortunate enough that my neighbors are far enough away I can walk out with the .410 and take them out. I rely on traps mainly but sometimes the gun becomes necessary.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
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-=DKC=-
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- Location: Corpus Christi, TX
- Martin Colony History: ................
2019: 11 pairs
2018: 11 pairs - 43 fledged
2017: 4 pairs - 17 fledged
I bought a cheap Daisy Powerline 880S at Walmart. Combined that with a cheap CenterPoint scope and cheap Weaver rings, also from Walmart. I'm only taking shots from about 20 feet or so but this combination is plenty accurate for HSP control. I rarely miss if I don't get too rushed. The thing I like most about the Powerline 880S is that it's a multi-pump rifle which allows me to control velocity and therefore distance. One or two pumps is all it takes at short distances.
What I've learned in the last couple of years (mostly from folks here on this forum)...
A blind is the key to successfully shooting HSPs. Set up a blind near your colony in a direction that will allow any missed projectiles to fall safely without damaging property or humans/animals. I use a roll of bamboo fencing to set up a makeshift blind that doesn't attract attention from neighbors.
A scope will absolutely help you to make accurate shots, especially if your eyes aren't what they once were. Be sure to sight it in with the pellets you will be using at the distance you will be shooting. If you can get a scope with parallax adjustment that will be best for accuracy. That's my next investment.
I only take a shot when all PMs are away from the housing. I won't take a chance on injuring a PM.
Take your time and practice the fundamentals of marksmanship. Breathe normally. Squeeze the trigger smoothly. Wait for another shot if you are feeling rushed.
If you want to control HSPs this way you will be spending an inordinate amount of time sitting in the heat waiting. Traps are definitely less work.
What I've learned in the last couple of years (mostly from folks here on this forum)...
A blind is the key to successfully shooting HSPs. Set up a blind near your colony in a direction that will allow any missed projectiles to fall safely without damaging property or humans/animals. I use a roll of bamboo fencing to set up a makeshift blind that doesn't attract attention from neighbors.
A scope will absolutely help you to make accurate shots, especially if your eyes aren't what they once were. Be sure to sight it in with the pellets you will be using at the distance you will be shooting. If you can get a scope with parallax adjustment that will be best for accuracy. That's my next investment.
I only take a shot when all PMs are away from the housing. I won't take a chance on injuring a PM.
Take your time and practice the fundamentals of marksmanship. Breathe normally. Squeeze the trigger smoothly. Wait for another shot if you are feeling rushed.
If you want to control HSPs this way you will be spending an inordinate amount of time sitting in the heat waiting. Traps are definitely less work.
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin' till you do succeed." - Curly Howard
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Bird Brain
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- Location: Highland Village, TX
- Martin Colony History: 2022-visitors, 2023-visitors, 2024-1 pair, fledged 4, 2025-10 pair, fledged 42, 2026-18 pair
I agree with DKC that a multi-pump is the way to go. DKC is correct. 2 pumps is enough for a house sparrow at 30 feet. Also, large caliber ammo is unnecessary for HOSP. .177 caliber is perfect for HOSP. .177 caliber will also be the most accurate at 2 pumps. I bought a Benjamin 397. It costs about $150. I bought mine at Cabela's. I use flat head "wadcutter" ammo which is target grade. I don't use a scope but one can be added. I quietly lean over the backyard fence to take a shot. I use the fence and the eve of my roof to conceal myself while lining up the sights for a good shot. Super quiet with only 2 pumps. Anything more powerful than 2 pumps and a .177 pellet will only damage my expensive martin pole or gourds. Buy some paper targets and have those sights perfectly adjusted for when the big moment arrives. The Benjamin 397 is a beautiful American classic that you will be proud to own. I actually enjoy shooting those little pests. Good luck.
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Fireflyfisherman
- Posts: 95
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:26 pm
- Location: TX/Mckinney
- Martin Colony History: 2021 New Site - Fingers Crossed
2020 - 30 pair (122 Fledged)
2019 - 30 pair (120 Fledged)
2018 - 14 pair (52 Fledged)
2017 - 6 pair (20 Fledged)
2016 - 1 Pair (5 Fledged)
2015 - 1 Pair (3 Fledged)
I have a RWS Diana in .177. It is more accurate than I am and has been responsible for the end of many sparrows and starlings. On windless days I have made some pretty rediculous shots on sparrows and starlings. Really accurate and reliable and they last forever. No complaints.
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Craig Dyer
- Posts: 500
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 2:24 pm
- Location: Nevada, TX
- Martin Colony History: Area is rural. Offer 28 compartments...metal housing (Lonestar Goliad) & Supergourds all w/crescent entrance holes. Purple martins are abundant here and eager for quality, well maintained, safe housing. Expect near 100% occupancy this season.
I have a Beeman .177 cal. with a factory mounted scope. I think I paid about $400 for it ten years ago. In my opinion when it comes to air rifles and BB guns you most certainly get what you pay for. If you are willing and able to pay, buy a quality gun. Adjust your sites and practice with a target or some cans. Slowly squeeze the trigger. Jerk the trigger and you'll miss every time. As others have said you don't often get more than a couple of shots at a house sparrow. They are wiley survivors and learn very quickly when they are being targeted. Good luck.
Craig Dyer
