Can anyone identify this model of Saw?

Joe Zorn · Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:35 pm

I realize that this is a bit off target here, but not too far off.

I recently purchased an old CRAFTSMAN radial arm saw at a garage sale and want to try to get a manual for it. If one even exists. It's pretty old.

I use my woodworking tools building all my PM wooden housing. All are build of either Cypress or Cedar.

See the attached pics to help me identify it

Thanks, Joe

Emil Pampell-Tx · Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:33 am

I have a 40+ year old craftsman that looks a lot like yours but a little bit different. Its still a great saw and I use it every week, it was the first big saw that I purchased. The problem with finding the model # is that you will need the book that came with the saw, mine is hard to read but the number is 2300. Craftsman typically buys from different mfg companies, so they have many different models. They should have put the model # on the saw, the books get old, lost, or hard to read.

eah415 · Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:48 pm

I have the operational manual for my 1966 Craftsman radial arm saw. I think this is what you are looking for. The only bad thing ,it's 100 pages .I don't know how I could copy it for you. If this is what you are needing ,give me a call. 316-733-4649.

Linda Reynolds · Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:11 pm

Joe, I might be totally off base, but you **might** find this site useful:

http://www.owwm.com/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=222

Guest · Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:42 pm

It looks like a 10 inch Sears radial arm saw. Go to Sears.com and look for parts.Most of the manuals are available for downloading. There is a Sears parts center at 800/366-parts. Give them a call.

Guest · Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:28 pm

Go to www.owwm/com/photoindex.aspx

This is a photo index and shows photos of Craftsman power tools.

Milton

Joe Zorn · Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:36 pm

Thanks all for the quick replies. I didn't expect that so quickly.

I also did about 3 hrs worth of google searching online last night on every think I could think of involving old Craftsman Radial Arm Saws.

I think I have the model number now. 113.29001, 113.29002, or 113.29004. Does this model number match any saw any of you have? Does it look like mine?

The blade guard on my saw (pictured) seems to be unlike any of the other models I saw. So take a look at the guard's shape when comparing with your saw.

On one of the woodworking forums, one writer pictured several shots of his unit. Except for the color, it seems to be identical to this one. Problem is, it's bronze in color, rather than gun metal gray. One of the replies to that article pointed that out and said that the bronze color indicated that it might be a '50s era machine. They said the Craftsman machines were no longer bronze color after 1960 or so. The model numbers above are for this bronze colored machine.

The sears.com site no longers has that manual, because of it's age, but does have SOME parts. Most are either no longer available or (a few) have replacement parts numbers provided.

eah415 Do you have the model number for your machine? Do you have the motor bearing part number? They seem to sing a bit...well once in a while just downright squawls! That's just occasionally. Usually the saw is pretty quiet and powerful. If so, the attached is a screen capture of the exploded motor. If you have this same drawing, does it indicate the part number for the bearings I have pointed out?

Thanks all for the pointers and site references.

Keep posting if you learn more info.

Thanks. Joe

Joe Zorn · Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:24 pm

M. Fontenot
That did the trick. Well, sort of. I could not get the site to load as you listed it, but going to www.owwm.com got me to that page eventually.
Now I have too many saws that look just like mine!

Looks like a 1962 model, maybe 113.29401. There was a second one that fit the bill too, but scanning the sears. com site showed that number (103.23150) as a jig saw. And it looked JUST LIKE mine!

Thanks again

Joe

Joe Zorn · Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:15 am

Thanks to all for the help.
I have the exact model number now, and have been able to download the manual from the owwm.com site. 113-29410
Looks like a fun winter-time project.
Joe

Guest · Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:56 am

Joe I didn't get involved in this post purposly because I knew so many were look alikes over the years.I had a new one in the 70's that looked nearly like another new one I had in the 2002,you were fortunate to nail it down so quickly.

Good luck with your project ,,,,,,,,,,RAS's are very versital but can also hurt you if you get complacen with them, so stay alert my friend.

dick

Guest · Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:01 pm

The motor should be an Emerson motor. If you cant find bearings thru Sears, try an electric motor repair shop. Also an auto generator and starter rebuilder may have a bearing and brushes for that motor.

Sears also had some replacement motors for these saws, about $100.

Milton

Joe Zorn · Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:23 pm

Thanks, Dick. I found out about all the look alikes. According to the info I got from another forum (woodworking), this is about 95% sure, and the parts I saw at the sears site showed that the bearings and other things are identical for most of the different look-alke units.

M Fontenot, The sears parts site says they have a substitute bearing (STD315245) number. Does STD mean they are common bearings that can be purchased at a Bearing/Gear/Pulley supply dealer? If so, I'm home free on this one.

Joe

Guest · Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:21 pm

Any where that sells bearings should be able to cross match to other manufacturers,,,,,,,,The STD # may be a Sears # but the original # should be stamped on the bearing housing or race,another option is carry the original bearing in and have them mic it and sustitute one of the same size ,no step for a stepper.

dick

Guest · Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:52 pm

I remembered that I had a RAS that started making a noise like a bad bearing and I found that it had gotten sawdust under the brushes and on the armature. I cleaned it off with WD-40 and the bearings felt good and smooth. I reassembled it and it is still running quiet today.

The STD prefix is probably the manufacturer code, the number identifies the bearing specifications.

Milton

Joe Zorn · Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:09 am

M. Fontenot wrote:I remembered that I had a RAS that started making a noise like a bad bearing and I found that it had gotten sawdust under the brushes and on the armature. I cleaned it off with WD-40 and the bearings felt good and smooth. I reassembled it and it is still running quiet today.

The STD prefix is probably the manufacturer code, the number identifies the bearing specifications.

Milton

Hmmm, not a bad idea. It only does the groaning thing once in a while, and will do it for 10 or 15 seconds, then stop again. Well, If I get as far as getting the motor off the unit and disassembling it, it'll have new bearing when it goes back together.

Hopefully the STD is a common number. I'll check soon as I can get a few minutes out of the classroom. There's and Industrial Supply shop no far from work that should be able to help me out with that one.