how many landlords change nest?

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chickadee
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Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:02 pm
Location: ohio

Just wondering if every one changes nest? And if so when? Is it necessary to always change them all? Or is it just if the nest is infested? Also if anyone has blue bird tree swallow experience should you change theirs and when?
Tony Lau
Posts: 73
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:53 pm
Location: Minnesota/Otsego

Here in the north we have trouble with blowfly larva infesting the nests. I change the nests when the babies are 5 days old and again at 15 days. Last year while we were banding my babies one of the nests had about 100 blowfly larva in it despite the fact I had changed the nest 8 days earlier.
wyatt
Posts: 823
Joined: Thu May 17, 2007 1:24 pm
Location: Florida/Tallahassee

I have only done it once when the nest was infested with swallow bugs. We don't have blow fly's in the south.
tonyg
Posts: 1520
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:16 pm
Location: Olpe, KS
Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..

Never have in 15 yrs..prolly should have early on when I wasn't an "educated" landlord..Now I just add seven dust to the compartments and they do really well..
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
Tim Mangan-Kansas
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Location: Kansas, Pittsburg
Martin Colony History: 2016 - 22 Pair

Changing out nesting material is a personal choice with each landlord. The only time I changed a nest is when one would become very wet. The other reason to do a nest change is due to mites or other type of infestation, normally after the eggs have hatched. I also used seven 5% powder which I found very effective. Some landlords prefer not to use a chemical in their nests so again, this is also a personal choice with each landlord. From reading posts over the years, my guess is most landlords do not change out thier nests during the season.

Tim
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2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
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flyin-lowe
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Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Last year I added Seven under the nest a few days before the eggs were due to hatch. This way the babies wouldn't breath in the dust while i was adding it and as long as the nest stay dry it will last for quite a while. Seven has been used for a long time but not all use it. I know some landlords who don't even remove the nest at the end of the year and the martins use them year after year.
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Robbo
Posts: 624
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:53 pm
Location: Leduc, Alberta, Canada.

I do several nest changes and add Sevin as big Blowfly problem here.
2009. 98 eggs, 66 hatch, 61 fledged.
2010. 114 eggs, 89 hatch,70 fledged.
2011. 96 eggs. 80 hatch,68 fledged.Heavy Merlin preditation.
2012. 89 eggs. 56 hatch, good fledge. Guards installed. Merlin not sighted at houses.
2013. First Egg May 24, first Baby June 13.
2014. successful.
2015. successful.
2016. Martin's population decline, suspect new housing in the neighborhood. Merlin eating well also!
2017.Population explosion :grin: . first egg May 25 in a BO-11
2018. Population stable.
JamesG
Posts: 128
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:24 pm
Location: Ashburn, Ga

I add seven dust to the bottom of the nest cavities then I add the nesting materials over it.
If I have a mite problem after that, I just add a little more seven dust around the underside of the outside edges of the nest.
Since I was a little kid, we dusted the dogs and cats with it, dusted around the house for fleas and I also use it to dust the garden for bugs using an old hand pump that belonged to my Dad.
So far, I have had no problems that I am aware of.
I am too chicken to change out the whole nest.... :oops:
James
chickadee
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Location: ohio

Wow I am amazed to see how many people don't do the nest change. I always have changed mine even if it does not look bad. We even use same things they build with and make it look like it was. Mites have been the only thing that gets bad in some of them that have a lot of young in the nest. I just always wondered how landlords with a big colony change them. Lol) they don't. What a relief to know you can just keep an eye out and do ones that look really bad. My husband was worried about doing so many nest changes. Guess he can relax now.
Emil Pampell-Tx
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Location: Tx, Richmond (SW of Houston)
Martin Colony History: First started in Gretna, La in 1969 with a small homemade house, have had martins ever since at 2 different homes in Texas

Our colony is too large to do nest changes, so I change the nests about once every 2 years. I too use sevin dust, usually put it into the cavities before the martins arrive. On some occasions, I may need to add some more sevin dust late in the season. Mites are our only problem so the sevin dust takes care of them. I only put about 1/4 teaspoon of it in the nest. It seems crazy, but the martins prefer to use the old nests, but they get too heavy so I change them after 2 years or so, depending upon how much time I have.

If you refuse to use chemicals (sevin), then regular nest changes are a must, as the mites will quickly infest the entrie colony. Even with nest changes, the mites will still be on the babies, but the nest changes help to get rid of many of them.
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