A question for all you veteran landlords,
How unusual is it for the sub adults to be soooo late? I've pretty much given up on getting any adults, so my hopes are now invested in the rabble rouser adolescents.
Dave
Where are the subbies?
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~Ray~Gingerich
- Posts: 2122
- Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:24 pm
- Location: Delaware/Dover
This morning I saw my first SY, it was a female so I can't submit to the scout report. I don't know about Iowa but that time frame is right on schedule for Delaware.
~Ray~ Gingerich
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
1999 1pair, 2006 2 pair, 2008 2 pair,
2009 23 pair, 2010 39 pair, 2011 67 pair,
2012 115 pair, 2013 160 pair,
2014 152 pair, 2015 174 pair, 2016 178 pair
2017 187 pair, 2018 200 pair, 2019 171pair
2020 233 pair
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Carlton
- Posts: 1959
- Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 6:42 pm
- Location: Florida/Deerfield Beach
- Martin Colony History: I moved to South Florida, from Delaware, in August of 2015.
I care for a 6 condo Sunset House as well as two Deluxe Gourd Racks, with 24 Chirpynest/Excluder gourds, along a canal in Pompano Beach, Florida.
At Quiet Waters Park, nearby in Deerfield Beach, I care for a Deluxe Gourd Rack with 12 TVG's. I also care for a Deluxe Gourd rack with 12 Excluder gourds with Modified Excluder entrances. I am substituting 6 Chirpynest boxes for 6 of the Conley II entranced gourds in 2026.
At another local park, Tradewinds Park in Coconut Creek, I care for a Trendsetter 12, 5 gourds rack with 60 Excluder gourds with Modified Excluder Entrances and 1 Deluxe Gourd Rack with 12 Troyer Vertical Gourds with Starling Stoppers over the Conley II's to keep out smaller starlings.
I find that they usually show up about the time the ASY's have been here for a month and when the ASY's are beginning to make nests.
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For those following my site progress my backyard site appears to be nearly full up. That would be 36 pairs.
My DE Country Club site appears nearly full up too. That would total 10 pairs.
My DE marina site has two pairs and a third lone ASY male. That site can accommodate 14 pairs. Last year was the first year, after trying for four years, to get nesting pairs. It had two pairs and both pairs were successful.
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For those following my site progress my backyard site appears to be nearly full up. That would be 36 pairs.
My DE Country Club site appears nearly full up too. That would total 10 pairs.
My DE marina site has two pairs and a third lone ASY male. That site can accommodate 14 pairs. Last year was the first year, after trying for four years, to get nesting pairs. It had two pairs and both pairs were successful.
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Diane Porter
- Posts: 213
- Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:30 am
- Location: Iowa
I'm in southeast Iowa, and I haven't seen any SY martins yet either. But my one returning male is in hyperdrive looking for some. Or for ANY kind of martin to share the whole big housing development with. I hope he finds company. And that you catch some nesting pairs this season.
Diane Porter
Fairfield, Iowa
Fairfield, Iowa
They are not late yet,Dave.I just seen a few sy females for the first this morning.They are always here before the males. Probably be another week before I see any males. Lynn
2007 2 pair 8 fledged
2008 4 pair 18 fledged
2009 21 pair 87 fledged
2010 44 pair 174 fledged
2011 68 pair 244 fledged
2012 82 pair 364 fledged
2013 82 pair 359 fledged
2014 86 pair 415 fledged
2015 101 pair 427 fledged
2008 4 pair 18 fledged
2009 21 pair 87 fledged
2010 44 pair 174 fledged
2011 68 pair 244 fledged
2012 82 pair 364 fledged
2013 82 pair 359 fledged
2014 86 pair 415 fledged
2015 101 pair 427 fledged
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DornCounty
- Posts: 2169
- Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:58 pm
- Location: Rural SE Kansas
- Martin Colony History: .
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Trio-Jedi
still no SY's at my colony in SE KS. Unless they are females and I am missing them.
2017 - Home & Public Colonies - 300 Cavities
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Dennis - AL
- Posts: 103
- Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:16 am
- Location: Atmore, AL
This has been an unusual season for me. My first scouts were seen Feb 6th, the earliest I have ever seen scouts. The sub adult birds started to arrive in the last two weeks. I even got some new birds this weekend so there is plenty of time left for arrivals in this season.
Dennis
Dennis
Persistence is not necessarily the key to success, but can be likened to the proverbial sand that brings forth a precious pearl.
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John Miller
- Posts: 4866
- Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:11 pm
- Location: St. Louis, MO
Sub males arrive in St. Louis about May 1 and pour in first few weeks of May, so not late in Iowa.
I think fledgling success was lowered last season here overall by the extreme heat and may be fewer sub adults, but there usually are many extras that hang out and don't nest, so may not notice.
John
I think fledgling success was lowered last season here overall by the extreme heat and may be fewer sub adults, but there usually are many extras that hang out and don't nest, so may not notice.
John