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skw159
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:23 pm
Location: IL/Oglesby

Okay, so I put up a Lone Star Goliad house, set up perches and a few decoys and have been playing dawn song. Still no PMs in sight. Anyway, am wondering whether its possible to still attract martins after the migration period?

Thanks all! Here's a photo of my house (it was lowered for some finishing touches).... Love your photos, it inspires some hope...
Thanks to all,
Vern1
Posts: 471
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Pettytown, Texas, US of A

You are pretty far North.
I would give it a while as subbies just hit my colony here in Central Texas about 10 days ago.
Cheers,
Joe
2015 - 40 cavities - 37 pair - fledged 172
2016 - 40 cavities - 38 pair - fledged 192
Hosting Purple Martins since 1976...Managing since 2006.
skw159
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:23 pm
Location: IL/Oglesby

Thank you!
Thanks to all,
Louise Chambers
Site Admin
Posts: 6208
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2003 1:07 pm
Location: Corpus Christi, TX

Northern migration continues through May and June. Lots of time yet.
Craig Dyer
Posts: 500
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 2:24 pm
Location: Nevada, TX
Martin Colony History: Area is rural. Offer 28 compartments...metal housing (Lonestar Goliad) & Supergourds all w/crescent entrance holes. Purple martins are abundant here and eager for quality, well maintained, safe housing. Expect near 100% occupancy this season.

Don't get discouraged. In my opinion you have made an excellent choice in housing. Once purple martins find your set-up they will be well served. It might take a season or two before you have breeding pairs.

I recently moved and had to leave a large purple martin colony behind. The first year in my new digs I had nothing but visiting and investigating martins. By year two I had six breeding pairs. This is my third season and the first nest check has revealed sixteen nests. It appears that I have fifteen to twenty pairs. Hang in there...perseverance will pay off.

Best of luck to you!
Craig Dyer
Bill Hyde
Posts: 287
Joined: Sat May 08, 2004 8:59 am
Location: Illinois/Roscoe

To skw159 et al,
After waiting nearly 20 years, my colony site finally attracted martins that stayed and produced babies in 2011. So you must decide for yourself but, speaking for myself, I think it was worth the wait. It is good to see another Illinois resident interested in this hobby, and this Forum is a good place to discuss issues about purple martins among others who are as interested as you. But martin habits seem difficult to predict, so you have to decide if it is worth it to yourself. I hope you join us in this discussion group. If anything, you will learn a lot about one of the most interesting species in the bird world. Nothing is guaranteed, but i doubt you will be disappointed :!: Good luck!!!
By the way, you are not alone in your disappointment so far this year.
PMCA member
2011 - 1 SY pair w/ 2 HY fledged
2012 - 5 breeding pairs
2013 - 14 nesting pairs and several singles
2014 - 8 nesting pairs
2015 - 5 nesting prs w/mostly ASY parents
Henry Limpet
Posts: 122
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:48 pm
Location: IN./Howe, via the s/w side of Chicago
Martin Colony History: Trendsetter-8. Set up in 2014 at my summer cottage, a beautiful natural inland lake in N.E. Indiana's Amish Country. T-8 is on cleared land behind my pole barn and adjacent to a farmer's field

2015: Had several flyovers in early June with 1 dedicated SYM visitor who visited each day for well over a month. He brought by a few PM "parades", with 8-12 PM's who would visit all at once, but soon leave. (Added 2 gourds to bottom of the T-8). We discovered a large (Amish) colony apx. 3/4 mile South of our T-8. We think this will eventually be our "feeder" colony.

2016: Put up a Trio G'Pa lakeside. Overall, not as much interest as 2015, likely because of our vacation to Gulf Shores, AL. in early June.

2017: Finally switched over to wheat straw. Success!! One nesting pair. Fledged 4!
2018: Zilch.
2019: Slow start, nothing observed by mid June. Wet, cold Spring a factor??
2020: Barely any sightings.
2021: Several observed high in the sky, eating. No interest so far!

We are both waaaay too far North to start fretting. It sounds like you are doing everything right. I'm pretty sure we have until Mid-June, maybe even late June, to attract some SY PM's. I think your proximity to the Illinois River will be your biggest asset!! Keep your chin up . . . up to the skies!!
Be careful how you wish . . for wishes can come true . . be sure that every wish you make is one that's right for you!
rrmartins
Posts: 1441
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

Sounds like your area is just now hitting its prime for SY birds. You want your housing up in Martin season. Some older housing may be full and there will be some birds searching for homes. Even then, after the clutches hatch, those FY birds will be looking around. Good luck.
2021
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
Siberman
Posts: 262
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:03 pm
Location: Titus County , TX

I just saw a pair investigating my housing . These are the first ones I've seen here .

Never surrender . :wink:
2010: 5 pair - raptor attack .
2011 : nada .
2012 : 1 pair - 5 eggs / 5 fledged .
2013: zero
2014: Lots of visitors
2015 : several visitors . Seriously considering purchasing a drone to scare off raptors .
ltwalsh
Posts: 255
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:25 pm
Location: Sun City Center, FL

As an FYI, I have had much better success with the "day time chatter" CD than the "dawn song". But maybe that's just my experience? As others have said it's still early up here so I would not give up yet. If possible, get a "day time chatter" CD going.
skw159 wrote:Okay, so I put up a Lone Star Goliad house, set up perches and a few decoys and have been playing dawn song. Still no PMs in sight. Anyway, am wondering whether its possible to still attract martins after the migration period?

Thanks all! Here's a photo of my house (it was lowered for some finishing touches).... Love your photos, it inspires some hope...
2022 starting new colony in Sun City Center, FL
taxidermy lady
Posts: 2988
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
Location: IL/Ellis Grove
Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!

Hang in there we are all waiting! Your not alone!
We read all these post about people who already have martins and it makes us inpatient! The best is yet to come! Good luck!
Sharon from southern Illinois
skw159
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:23 pm
Location: IL/Oglesby

Thanks so much for the encouragement and information everyone, I do appreciate it.
Thanks to all,
DornCounty
Posts: 2169
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:58 pm
Location: Rural SE Kansas
Martin Colony History: .
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Trio-Jedi

hang in there.. I once had a pair arrive and start nesting on May 24th. That's way down here in SE KS.
2017 - Home & Public Colonies - 300 Cavities
rrmartins
Posts: 1441
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:04 am
Location: Round Rock, TX

I also put up a four room house on Saturday, and new birds are filling it up. Their are LOTS of martins still coming. Hang in there.
2021
T14
10 Pair
49 Fledged
terriergal
Posts: 76
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:41 pm
Location: MN/Hutchinson

I have had martins in past years, and had some (2 pr) last year - the first time it took I think two years for them to move in (though they would sometimes fly over during the summer and check out the house).

I have YET to even *see* or *hear* a martin this year. I'm in a smaller town and two people have filled out scout reports for my location but I have yet to see any. This week is going to be bad for them too. Cold, in the 50s for highs, windy. I am hoping they don't return until next week...
Paula in MN
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