Somebody try this....

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Vern1
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Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Pettytown, Texas, US of A

It worked amazingly for me so somebody try this!

I was talking to an old couple who have been Martin Landlords forever and have shared tips with me before.
They moved into town about 12 years ago and restarted their colony and slowly moved over to gourds and have a nice welded rack made by his son that has 24 gourds with SREH entrances and porches.

As we talked about the ups and downs of this season, the subject of EHS came up.
Being in town, they have more than their share and have a unique method of dealing with them since they can't shoot them in town and quite a few EHS that are trap shy.

He chuckled as he said you gotta fight frustration with frustration.
They let the EHS move in and give them 4-5 days to get established.
Then he lowers the rack and puts a clothes pin or two in the SREH so the EHS can see in the gourd but try as they might, can't get in.
He said it frustrates the devil out of them and since they have already wasted time building a nest, their biological clock is ticking and they usually move on after a few hours.
They said this also has an added benefit in that the EHS just leave and don't go on the usual rampage destroying Martin eggs and pinkies.

I tried it on a particularly worthy opponent that is both trap and pellet gun shy.
I let them move in and stay for 5 days, then lowered the rack and put two clothes pins in the SREH and watched the action with my web cam.
As soon as I raised the the rack, it seems like EVERY Martin in my colony had to come by and check out the gourd.....then it settled down.
The EHS came by and tried to get in a few times and simply left - they didn't even try to move to another gourd.
I haven't seen any EHS on my rack in over a week since I tried this.

Test this theory out folks, it seems to work.
This would be particularly handy in town where you can't shoot them or at a public site that is watched by folks passing by.
The hardest part is waiting for 4-5 days while those nasty EHS make themselves at home!

Try it and report back.
I can't take any credit for this, just passing it on to fellow Landlords.

Good luck with the rest of your season.
Cheers,
Joe
2015 - 40 cavities - 37 pair - fledged 172
2016 - 40 cavities - 38 pair - fledged 192
Hosting Purple Martins since 1976...Managing since 2006.
tim414
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Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:52 am
Location: NorthTX/Pottsboro/Lake Texoma

I was wondering what EHS stood for....English House Sparrow? If yes=HOSP.....
tim414
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Location: NorthTX/Pottsboro/Lake Texoma

I do not have any Martins yet. I do have issues with HOSP trying to nest. (Not anymore-they have nested already this year in this area.) I will try that next year, thanks.
Tim
williamn
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Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:01 pm
Location: TN/Shelbyville

Thanks for passing the information. I have a HOSP Im having trouble getting rid of. I'll try this.

Thanks
2014 1 pair,5 eggs,5 hatched & fledged
2015 9 pair, 43 eggs, 41 hatched & fledged
2016 Bad year 9 pair died after laying eggs
2017 rebuilding year, 15 nests with 53 hatched and fledged
2018 28 gourds,22 occupied,112 eggs
2020 28 gourds, 27 occupied, 87 eggs



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MamaBruff
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Location: SW Missouri
Martin Colony History: 2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.

I would like to add something here. I have done similarly, though not patient enough to wait 5 days. Anyways, I have a Gilbertson BB house rigged with a Gilbertson trap, just 6 feet from the base of the PM system. The homeless HOSP go there nearly every time.

The Gilbertson house... I had my first encounter with the ruthless HOSP who killed 6 chickadee nestlings and their mother. So the "death house" was relocated near the base of the PM system. A bit of "payback" I suppose.

This is not my Gilbertson house but nearly identical: http://www.ourhappyacres.com/wp-content ... house1.jpg

http://shop.purplemartin.org/Gilbertson ... tails.aspx
~Mary B~

Lifelong PM Admirer and Nature Enthusiast.
Ruthless trapper of S&S year round.
2013-2016 Unsuccessful at starting a PM colony. Health problems.
Rehomed all my PM stuff. Good Luck and Best Wishes to All.
lynnh
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Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:07 am
Location: Iowa, New Sharon

4 to 5 days....I can't do 4 to 5 minutes therefore I'm out.
2007 2 pair 8 fledged
2008 4 pair 18 fledged
2009 21 pair 87 fledged
2010 44 pair 174 fledged
2011 68 pair 244 fledged
2012 82 pair 364 fledged
2013 82 pair 359 fledged
2014 86 pair 415 fledged
2015 101 pair 427 fledged
Vern1
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Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:06 pm
Location: Pettytown, Texas, US of A

Yeah, 4-5 days was killing me.
I had stopped just short of pulling out the folding blind....but had it in the hallway of the house!
Already tried shooting AND trapping but they just wouldn't fall for it.
I had already been after them for 3 days when the couple told me the trick.
Sometimes when you get a particularly smart HOSP, 4-5 days passes pretty quickly and blocking the entrance with clothes pins feels sooo good.
Cheers,
Joe
2015 - 40 cavities - 37 pair - fledged 172
2016 - 40 cavities - 38 pair - fledged 192
Hosting Purple Martins since 1976...Managing since 2006.
KathyF
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Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
Location: Missouri/Licking
Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.

I think every site is different. Every HOSP is different. I can tell you that I have had 3 pair of nesting BB and 12 pair of nesting tree swallows and when I set the trap in a house where the HOSP had claimed it and killed the nesting TRES, he moved on to another nest box and was trying to kill the parents / nestlings there. So I had to remove the trap and setup a blind before I finally got him.
I can see where letting them build in a nestbox keeps them busy, but I would not block it off and hope they go elsewhere. Too much risk to my other nesting birds. Sorry, but I have learned my lesson. Shoot, trap, what ever I have to do - or other birds suffer from my mismanagement.
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
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