Site fidelity is strong with these birds!
A neighbor of mine has 4-5 of the aluminum Heath houses. A couple of them are leaning a good bit, and he's got about 15-20 martins. Meanwhile, I've got a T-14 and 4 super gourds. His birds will occasionally look at mine but they're just being nosey. Kind of like walking thru new construction before they install locks!
2016 - 4 gourds, 2 unlucky SY bachelors
2017 - 4 gourds, added a T14. 3 SY pairs, 3 nests, 14 eggs, 14 hatched, 13 nestlings.
2018 - as of April 10, approximately 16 Martins, mostly ASY, a few SY. No nests yet.
2017 - 4 gourds, added a T14. 3 SY pairs, 3 nests, 14 eggs, 14 hatched, 13 nestlings.
2018 - as of April 10, approximately 16 Martins, mostly ASY, a few SY. No nests yet.
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Keith
- Posts: 435
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:45 pm
- Location: Missouri/Ava
- Martin Colony History: 85 pair in 2020. Seems fairly consistent the last few years.
Yes, I have noticed this same thing about these birds. They may come back again and again to a site that is being encroached by trees and maybe some branches practically touching the houses. An ideal site in my opinion may be overlooked nearby. The real positive thing about this site fidelity is that once one can get started with these wonderful birds we can expect them to return. We really do need to do our best to maintain a good site however.
Keith
Keith
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taxidermy lady
- Posts: 2988
- Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
- Location: IL/Ellis Grove
- Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!
I know all about this subject!
It sucks!
Good luck!!!
It sucks!
Good luck!!!
Sharon from southern Illinois
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Dave Reynolds
- Posts: 2445
- Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
- Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
- Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged
2026 - 41 Pair, 182 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged
2026 - 28 Pair. 116 Fledged
Sharon. --- We both know about site fidelity... My old friend kept getting his Martins year after year, If I didn't go over and help him clean out his houses and realign his leaning poles, I don't know what would have happened to his colony.. So glad I could help him every year... though I never got any Martins at my home, I always felt good seeing him smile when his birds came home every year. He has passed now but I see his houses are starting to show their age.. Don't know what the new owners will do. Wish you good luck again this year.. This will your year..
Dave
Dave
PMCA Member
Little Hocking, Ohio
Little Hocking, Ohio
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taxidermy lady
- Posts: 2988
- Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
- Location: IL/Ellis Grove
- Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!
Awe thanks Dave your a wonderful guy doing that! Doesn't surprise me!!!
I had a dental apt. Today and seen the neighbor has his three houses moved again! He has attached them to a grain bin! He won't pour concrete and do it right!
So he moved them last year and had them attached to an old shed! They came right back and he had 8 pair. Now they are attached to a grain bin! Mines in the wide open with nothing around them! Guarantee his birds go right to those houses with no hesitation!! P!$$€$ ME O££!!!!!!! Nothing I can do!
I had a dental apt. Today and seen the neighbor has his three houses moved again! He has attached them to a grain bin! He won't pour concrete and do it right!
Sharon from southern Illinois
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Dave Reynolds
- Posts: 2445
- Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
- Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
- Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged
2026 - 41 Pair, 182 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged
2026 - 28 Pair. 116 Fledged
Sharon --- Your cracking me up...
That just seems to be the way it goes... All wrong by the experts, but the Martins keep going to these same conditions.. (no nest cleaning or over run by sparrows, leaning poles). Never ceases to amaze me...
Dave
Dave
PMCA Member
Little Hocking, Ohio
Little Hocking, Ohio
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taxidermy lady
- Posts: 2988
- Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
- Location: IL/Ellis Grove
- Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!
Dave my son has told me I try to hard! I gave him a plastic house in 2013 and he got a pair that year! He had 3 in 2014. 6 pair in 2015 and 8 in 2016! So he's done awesome! But he doesn't get all excited when they show up like I do!!
Get-r-Done!!!

Sharon from southern Illinois
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Dave Reynolds
- Posts: 2445
- Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:35 pm
- Location: Little Hocking, Oh.
- Martin Colony History: Satellite Site “Oxbow Golf Course”..
2018 - 15 Pair, 36 Fledged
2019 - 26 Pair, 97 Fledged
2020 - 30 Pair, 137 Fledged
2021 - 30 Pair, 144 Fledged
2022 - 27 Pair, 125 Fledged
2023 - 31 Pair, 130 Fledged
2024 - 41 Pair, 198 Fledged
2025 - 44 Pair, 168 Fledged
2026 - 41 Pair, 182 Fledged
Home Site "Little Hocking, Ohio".
2019 - 1 Pair, 5 Fledged
2020 - 1 Pair, 4 Fledged
2021 - 8 Pair, 36 Fledged
2022 - 13 Pair, 46 Fledged
2023 - 16 Pair, 84 Fledged
2024 - 22 Pair, 104 Fledged
2025 - 28 Pair, 83 Fledged
2026 - 28 Pair. 116 Fledged
Sharon --- So glad you got him started.. He's so lucky, in more then one way.. (Great Mom) .. I'm getting surrounded by people reporting Martins, I'm ready for that sweet tweet... any day now.
Dave
Dave
PMCA Member
Little Hocking, Ohio
Little Hocking, Ohio
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Purple Auburndale
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm
- Location: Auburndale
I'm new, having put up two new martin houses in 2017. Central Florida. Have not seen any martins. Houses put next to lake, away from trees.
What state is your houses located?
Good luck with attracting them.
What state is your houses located?
Good luck with attracting them.
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Glynn B - LA
- Posts: 320
- Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:59 pm
- Location: Louisiana West Monroe
[quote="Purple Auburndale"]I'm new, having put up two new martin houses in 2017. Central Florida. Have not seen any martins. Houses put next to lake, away from trees.
What state is your houses located?
Good luck with attracting them.[/quote]
Do you have a photo of your site that you can post?
Don't worry about not seeing any martins at your site. Most new colonies are established by the sub adult male purple martin. The sub adult martin population have been making there way into your state of Florida. Just be patient.
Besides houses, gourds or a combination of both work well in trying to attract a prospective tenant. Photo's would aid in getting the best advice for success.
Glynn
What state is your houses located?
Good luck with attracting them.[/quote]
Do you have a photo of your site that you can post?
Don't worry about not seeing any martins at your site. Most new colonies are established by the sub adult male purple martin. The sub adult martin population have been making there way into your state of Florida. Just be patient.
Besides houses, gourds or a combination of both work well in trying to attract a prospective tenant. Photo's would aid in getting the best advice for success.
Glynn
2019 26 pair 116 fledged
2018 20 pair 76 fledged
2017 19 pair 82 fledged
2016 13 pair 48 fledged
2015 3 pair 13 fledged
2014 1 pair 4 fledged
2013 2 pair 6 fledged
2012 0 pair
2011 0 pair
I don’t have the perfect site. One open flyway with trees within 80 ft. I do have a small pond they utilize during the heat of Summer. (2017) HEAVY HAWK PREDATION
2018 20 pair 76 fledged
2017 19 pair 82 fledged
2016 13 pair 48 fledged
2015 3 pair 13 fledged
2014 1 pair 4 fledged
2013 2 pair 6 fledged
2012 0 pair
2011 0 pair
I don’t have the perfect site. One open flyway with trees within 80 ft. I do have a small pond they utilize during the heat of Summer. (2017) HEAVY HAWK PREDATION
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Glynn B - LA
- Posts: 320
- Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:59 pm
- Location: Louisiana West Monroe
[quote="tjm80"]A neighbor of mine has 4-5 of the aluminum Heath houses. A couple of them are leaning a good bit, and he's got about 15-20 martins. Meanwhile, I've got a T-14 and 4 super gourds. His birds will occasionally look at mine but they're just being nosey. Kind of like walking thru new construction before they install locks![/quote]
I'm Learning that site fidelity or just the presence of any martin in established housing can make it very very difficult in trying to attract them to move 125 to 150 ft to another housing setup in the same yard. At the moment I have between 10 and twelve pair at my 2016 established site. Next year I want to move this established housing 100 plus feet from the bottom of a hill to the top. It's just getting tougher for me to go up and down this hill. The newer area atop the hill is even more open, go figure! I had a ASY male trying for three straight days to attract a female to join him at the newer housing. He finally gave in, joined the other martins at the established site down the hill and is now paired. If I don't get a pair in the new housing this year, I'll have to take the chance and move the established up the hill anyway.
Glynn
I'm Learning that site fidelity or just the presence of any martin in established housing can make it very very difficult in trying to attract them to move 125 to 150 ft to another housing setup in the same yard. At the moment I have between 10 and twelve pair at my 2016 established site. Next year I want to move this established housing 100 plus feet from the bottom of a hill to the top. It's just getting tougher for me to go up and down this hill. The newer area atop the hill is even more open, go figure! I had a ASY male trying for three straight days to attract a female to join him at the newer housing. He finally gave in, joined the other martins at the established site down the hill and is now paired. If I don't get a pair in the new housing this year, I'll have to take the chance and move the established up the hill anyway.
Glynn
2019 26 pair 116 fledged
2018 20 pair 76 fledged
2017 19 pair 82 fledged
2016 13 pair 48 fledged
2015 3 pair 13 fledged
2014 1 pair 4 fledged
2013 2 pair 6 fledged
2012 0 pair
2011 0 pair
I don’t have the perfect site. One open flyway with trees within 80 ft. I do have a small pond they utilize during the heat of Summer. (2017) HEAVY HAWK PREDATION
2018 20 pair 76 fledged
2017 19 pair 82 fledged
2016 13 pair 48 fledged
2015 3 pair 13 fledged
2014 1 pair 4 fledged
2013 2 pair 6 fledged
2012 0 pair
2011 0 pair
I don’t have the perfect site. One open flyway with trees within 80 ft. I do have a small pond they utilize during the heat of Summer. (2017) HEAVY HAWK PREDATION
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Craig Dyer
- Posts: 500
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 2:24 pm
- Location: Nevada, TX
- Martin Colony History: Area is rural. Offer 28 compartments...metal housing (Lonestar Goliad) & Supergourds all w/crescent entrance holes. Purple martins are abundant here and eager for quality, well maintained, safe housing. Expect near 100% occupancy this season.
I also experienced this amazing site fidelity. I moved several years ago & left my old colony behind. I set up the martin housing at my new location...a 24 room metal house and Super Gourds. The first year I had nothing but visitors. About 200 yards away was an old S&K plastic house full of house sparrows. The house was leaning and had no predator guard. Some of the compartment doors were missing, yet there were several purple martin pairs nesting there among the house sparrows. Those nesting martins chose that old site over mine...unbelievable! They had obviously nested there previously. It was the following season before I managed to attract a few martins to my site. Gradually my colony grew year by year, yet martins still nest in that old sparrow infested S&K.
Craig Dyer
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Purple Auburndale
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm
- Location: Auburndale
Photo of both martin houses.
