House Finch ...?

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MJM
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon May 24, 2021 7:41 am
Location: Southern Indiana
Martin Colony History: >
2026 - 1 Pair!
2025 - 0 Pairs
2024 - Moved to IN
2023 - 12 Pairs (KY)
2022 - 10 Pairs (KY)
2022 - 4 Pairs (KY)

So I have a cute pair of house finches who are trying to take up residency in my martin house I just put out *yesterday*, lol. I know barn swallows are wicked but what about house finches?
Zheeeem
Posts: 34
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 8:38 am
Location: Corolla, NC

Every year I have several house finches that hang out on the perch bars over my T-14. There are occasional squabbles, but no serious problems. And, so far, no efforts to nest in the cavities.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3789
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Barn swallows are no problem at all to martins, did you mean tree swallows.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
MJM
Posts: 136
Joined: Mon May 24, 2021 7:41 am
Location: Southern Indiana
Martin Colony History: >
2026 - 1 Pair!
2025 - 0 Pairs
2024 - Moved to IN
2023 - 12 Pairs (KY)
2022 - 10 Pairs (KY)
2022 - 4 Pairs (KY)

Thanks guys, I hate chasing any native birds out (well, except Starlings because they are not supposed to be here!).

Yes Lowe, I meant Tree Swallow (had to look it up). Had some last year in one of the gourds and they were just plain evil to the Martins- bombing them, taking them to the ground even. I didn't want to kill the things because they are just defending their home- so I actually took that gourd off they had nested in and relocated it to a relatively nearby tree. They ended up staying there for the season and left the Martins alone from then on.
Larry A Kronemeyer
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Joined: Mon May 22, 2006 5:27 pm
Location: Illinois/Millstadt

I always warn Martin owners in our are not to let anything in the houses except Martins. Do not need anymore Hawk attracters. Especially over the winter, everything is plugged, covered or brought inside. Someone asked once but the Martins aare not here, and the answer is the birds here that don't migrate will be here in mass come spring.
Larry and Judy Kronemeyer
est. 1999
1-12 compartment Trendsetter and 8 gourds(crescents)
12 gourd rack (crescents)
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Birdiegirl
Posts: 362
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:03 pm
Location: Scott County Kentucky
Martin Colony History: Two poles: 2 T-14s and 8 gourds
2021- 1 pair, 5 fledged
2022- 11 pair, 36 fledged
2023- 20 pair, 78 fledged
2024- 32 pair, 109 fledged
2025- 34 pair, 117 fledged
2026-

Hi MJM,

Without an established martin colony, we've always had tree swallows show up ahead of purple martins where I live. Not sure what to expect this year- tree swallows may arrive at around the same time as any martin scouts that return (fingers crossed). We try to offer several other nesting options for the bluebirds and tree swallows to use. There was a helpful document I found through this forum that talked about offering other housing for the tree swallows, and how to place it relative to the martin housing:

https://www.purplemartin.org/uploads/me ... cy-377.pdf

Basically- get the tree swallows to use the housing you want them to (close to, but not IN your martin housing), and they become your allies in running other tree swallows off... leaving the martin housing strictly for the martins. We tried these suggestions last year and tree swallows and martins co existing without much trouble.

Hope this helps. Good luck this year!
Laura
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Whippy
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Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:15 pm
Location: Plano, Texas
Martin Colony History: See Signature

Hey, you guys.

In addition to BG's advice, Here's another tree swallow piece. Chuck describes how he moves his swallows away from the Martins. Here's a read on how he does it.

http://chuckspurplemartinpage.com/movingts.htm

Looks pretty easy.

Coolwhips
2016 - many visitors
2017 - 1 pair, 3 fledged
2018- 2 pair, 12 fledged
2019 - 4 pair, 21 fledged
2020 - 15 pair, 67 fledged
2021 - 29 pair, 117 fledged
2022 - 35 pair, 130 fledged
2023 - 43 pair, 196 fledged
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