Visitors but no takers

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hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

We set up our house late last year (end of April) but had a number of visitors, a few of which looked pretty serious. I’ve had a few visitors now this year, too, but don’t seem to get any takers. is that pretty normal? We’ve got an SK barn house with compartments enlarged.
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Not unusual at all. Took me over 10 years to find the right location at my place and an ASY male that wanted to call it home. Sounds very promising that your first year putting a house up that there were numerous visitors. Keep doing the right things and it will happen, just need the right bird. Dawn Song, prenest, decoy, etc.. Make the house look as if there are Martins nesting there already. Keep us posted on any and all activity. Good Luck!
Jeff
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

deancamp wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:05 pm
Not unusual at all. Took me over 10 years to find the right location at my place and an ASY male that wanted to call it home. Sounds very promising that your first year putting a house up that there were numerous visitors. Keep doing the right things and it will happen, just need the right bird. Dawn Song, prenest, decoy, etc.. Make the house look as if there are Martins nesting there already. Keep us posted on any and all activity. Good Luck!
Wow, ten years! Thanks a bunch for the info. I haven’t done any prenesting so I’ll give that a try. Thanks again!
dsonyay
Posts: 1677
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:10 pm
Location: Louisiana/Broussard
Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.

2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)

2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.

2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged

2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(

2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.

2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.

hhudson26 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:31 pm
We set up our house late last year (end of April) but had a number of visitors, a few of which looked pretty serious. I’ve had a few visitors now this year, too, but don’t seem to get any takers. is that pretty normal? We’ve got an SK barn house with compartments enlarged.
Sometimes it takes a couple seasons.. dont give up. I lived in Slidell La and put housing up and within a couple weeks had two pairs.. for the next 5 or 6 years I did pretty good. Them We moved home to Broussard La and i set up the housing and it took me about 5 years to get pairs to nest.

Weird thing is the location in slidell was not ideal for PMs. But the location in Broussard is perfect… so oddly enough Broussard location took the longest.
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

We may have a taker. One male has been hanging around a few days now and seems to have taken up residence in one of the compartments. He tries bringing others back during the day but no luck for him yet. We’ll see what happens!
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged
2025: 17 pairs, 80 fledged

Chances are SY birds have not arrived at your location yet, so your chances are good the ASY male will attract an SY female. This happened twice at my colony (after other ASY pairs had settled in) - I named him "Chester the Molester" - name taken from a magazine those over 60 might remember, LOL!

Good Luck!
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3789
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Assuming the male you have is an ASY male I would bet if he doesn’t attract an ASY female, he will surely attract an SY female. Hopefully he doesn’t decide to move on before the SYs arrive. In the mean time it wouldn’t hurt to post some pictures of your yard and housing. We might see something that can help your chances.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
Zheeeem
Posts: 34
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 8:38 am
Location: Corolla, NC

Our first year we had zero visitors. Our second year we had a few regulars, but no successful breeding. Our third year we had 4 cavities with babies. Our 4th year 12 out of 14 cavities were full with babies. So patience is the key.
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

Thanks all. Attached are a couple pics of our setup.
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flyin-lowe
Posts: 3789
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

Definitely wide open…. How far is it from your house? Researches feel martins find security in being near human activity and being close to a house considered a good thing.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

flyin-lowe wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:15 am
Definitely wide open…. How far is it from your house? Researches feel martins find security in being near human activity and being close to a house considered a good thing.
It’s roughly 100’ from the house.
flyin-lowe
Posts: 3789
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
Location: Indiana/Henry Co.

That's close enough to serve the purpose.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Thanks for the update. Be patient and let him work. It will happen so try to enjoy the whole process. Easy for me to say, huh. :)
Jeff
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

I think we have a pair! Came home from work this evening to see our boy sitting on top of the house with a pretty little girl. They flew around together for awhile and then at dusk tucked themselves into one of the compartments. :) I think I heard some Barry White music coming from inside there.
deancamp
Posts: 873
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:17 pm
Location: Raymore, MO

Haha, there is still time for them to pull in more pairs this year. I'm pulling for you!
Jeff
Jones4381
Posts: 830
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:54 pm
Location: Southwestern VA
Martin Colony History: 2020- 0
2021- 1 pair-5
2022- 5 pair-20
2023 34 pair-44
2024 30 pair-122
2025 54 Pair -178

hhudson26 wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:09 pm
I think we have a pair! Came home from work this evening to see our boy sitting on top of the house with a pretty little girl. They flew around together for awhile and then at dusk tucked themselves into one of the compartments. :) I think I heard some Barry White music coming from inside there.
Awesome!
"Be content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you." - Lao Tzu
Kegger
Posts: 381
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:58 am
Location: Awesome Florida
Martin Colony History: 2020: 2 pair of SY with 4 eggs ,fledge 7
2021: 5 pair 25 eggs fledge 18, 4 egg 2nd brood attempt
2022: 13 pair 61 eggs fledge 56 added 11 cavs. now 22 total
2023 15 pair 75 eggs fledge 51 only 3 of 11 eggs hatched cavity 10
2024 11 pair 50 eggs fledge
26. 1 renest cav1, cav10 8 eggs 8 fledged 2 couples ASY and Sy

made me chuckle this am, thanks 8)
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged
2025: 17 pairs, 80 fledged

Great news! Just curious, is the female SY or ASY?

My birds prefer rock ballads, especially Journey/Steve Perry, followed by the traditional smoke! 8)
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
hhudson26
Posts: 26
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:56 am
Location: 76513
Martin Colony History: Caddo mills, TX
2021 - 1 SY Male resident
2022 - 4 pair, 7 fledged
2023 - 12 pair, 58 fledged
2024 - 20 pair, 81 fledged

New location, Belton, TX
2025 - 1 pair, 1 fledged

birdman in buckhead wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:54 am
Great news! Just curious, is the female SY or ASY?

My birds prefer rock ballads, especially Journey/Steve Perry, followed by the traditional smoke! 8)
Wish I could tell you but I don’t know the difference in the females between SY and ASY. Only the males.
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged
2025: 17 pairs, 80 fledged

Agree. ASY and SY females are the hardest to differentiate. My limited opinion is the ASY females will have a darker chest and belly with more gray/brownish feathers. SY females have a lighter/whiter chest, belly, and neck, with no (or hardly any) gray/brownish feathers. Two good sites:

https://www.purplemartin.org/purple-mar ... ification/
http://www.chuckspurplemartinpage.com/martins.htm

Good luck!
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
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