Now What? Please assist.

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DML
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:39 pm
Location: Gallia, OHIO
Martin Colony History: First year

June 9 - 2 eggs. June 13- 3 more eggs. All in one gourd. Completing weekly nest checks, kill a sparrow every now & them. I catch them with the trap. Today a tremendous amount of activity. 5-6 birds flying around. Singing and always seems to be one male fighting. With this SE Ohio heat I don’t want to cause a problem with another nest check. Last year was my second year with ZERO results. Martins come, but continuing fighting, it must have scared my prospects away. Year before was year #1. I had three eggs & three fledged. A lot of different factors here, but basically I am flying by the seat of my pants. I really don’t know what I am looking at. Please assist.
2020 one pair, 3 eggs & 3 fledge
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
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Well sounds like normal activity to me. They fight all the time but its not all that serious to result in certain death or abandoning. If a bird successfully fought off and defended his territory to the point of driving them away, I can see that too especially a particularly strong male who is defending a whole side of a house.
Looks and sounds serious, once I could swore a bird was dying in a gourd...it does happen but its a rare enough event.
How many cavities are you offering and what type?

At this point if you want to hold off nest checks by all means do so.

Last, congrats on those eggs!!!!
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
DML
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:39 pm
Location: Gallia, OHIO
Martin Colony History: First year

June 9 - 2 eggs. June 13- 3 more eggs. All in one gourd. Completing weekly nest checks, kill a sparrow every now & them. I catch them with the trap. Today a tremendous amount of activity. 5-6 birds flying around. Singing and always seems to be one male fighting. With this SE Ohio heat I don’t want to cause a problem with another nest check. Last year was my second year with ZERO results. Martins come, but continuing fighting, it must have scared my prospects away. Year before was year #1. I had three eggs & three fledged. A lot of different factors here, but basically I am flying by the seat of my pants. I really don’t know what I am looking at. Please assist.
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brent
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Location: Raceland, Louisiana

Looks like a Tree Swallow to me. Brent
Brent
C.C.Martins
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
Location: Corpus Christi Tx
Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.

Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member

Yep. That explains the fighting, its keeping the martins away.
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
DML
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:39 pm
Location: Gallia, OHIO
Martin Colony History: First year

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Barn swallow eggs? So I have failed another year.
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scottfreidhof
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Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:13 am
Location: Kentucky/Morehead

Enjoy those tree swallows for now - they are wonderful birds to have around the yard. It is probably too late to expect purple martins to nest at this point in June anyway, although some curious visitors could show up anytime from nearby colonies. You can be ready for next spring by placing 2 or 3 bluebird nest boxes around your yard on separate poles. They can go up anytime between now and the end of next March. Tree swallows probably show up around your house in late March or early April. We don't live too far apart and tree swallows usually show up in my yard during the third week of March and nest building begins later in April. It is important to have more than one bluebird nest box in the yard because there will probably be multiple pairs of tree swallows and a pair of bluebirds competing for them. Give them enough to keep their attention away from your martin gourds.
DML
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun May 24, 2020 7:39 pm
Location: Gallia, OHIO
Martin Colony History: First year

Thank you for your response from Morehead. Lot of kids in this area attend Morehead University, great school. I do have one bluebird house, I will get a couple more off the Amish here in Gallia. Killing sparrows is one thing, but I was not prepared for the TS and blue birds. The one blue bird does sit on the gourds without issue and goes into the nest 40’ from the gourds. This forum is a nice tool. I don’t know what made year 1 work without issue. Very hard and unforgiving learning curve.
2020 one pair, 3 eggs & 3 fledge
birdman in buckhead
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am
Location: Small Town Buckhead, GA (not ATL Buckhead)
Martin Colony History: 2018: 1 pair, 5 fledged
2019: 3 pairs, 10 fledged
2020: 3 pairs, 13 fledged
2021: 13 pairs, 46 fledged
2022: 22 pairs, 89 fledged
2023: 20 pairs, 85 fledged
2024: 18 pairs, 80 fledged
2025: 17 pairs, 80 fledged

Just my 2 cents. I would not let the heat affect your nest checks at all. Putting up shade. lowering racks due to wind, putting early fledglings back in the nest, etc. Lately, I've lowered racks and opened gourds 2 - 3 times a day - only because it was necessary - and it didn't seem to bother the parent birds at all. Even with the racks 6 - 8 feet off the ground didn't stop the parent birds from carrying on their normal routine.
GEAUX TIGERS!

Cheers!
Terry
defed
Posts: 281
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:50 pm
Location: WNY
Martin Colony History: :
2022 - 1 pair, 5E, 4H, 4F
2023 - 2 pair, 9E, 5H, 5F
2024 - 4 pair, 16E, 16H, 14F (2 more pair started nests but failed due to weather/loss of mate).

scottfreidhof wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:31 am
It is probably too late to expect purple martins to nest at this point in June anyway, although some curious visitors could show up anytime from nearby colonies.
i don't think it's too late just yet. PMCA just got eggs on their nest cam site and mine haven't hatched yet (hopefully this wk), w/ another SY pair also hanging around. so i think there is still a little time up north.
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