Need "poop ID" please...

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The Olsons
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It seems kind of gross to ask for "poop ID", but I really need to know what is going on in the backyard. Yesterday morning I found about 4 feet away from a martin pole some animal feces that is about 1 1/2 inch long, pitch black but has a white end on one side. First I thought it was half a martin eggshell that fell on something dark. Then I saw that it was one entire piece of feces. The weird thing is that it goes straight from black to the white color.....no in between.

This morning when I did my walk under the systems I found the same type of poop under another system, also about 4 feet away from the pole. The bird netting is not messed with, neither the predator guard. The martins are happy and socializing, so I do not think that if it is a predator that goes after birds that he was successful. However, it bothers me a lot not knowing from which animal this feces stems.

I tried to google all kind of sites but could not find anything that looked like our "present". Is someone familiar with what I am describing?

Astrid :shock:
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James Johnson
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Photo the Poop.
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The black stuff is poop,,now let me think about the white stuff,oh yea thats more poop :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Astrid you know better than to leave your self wide open like that ,I never pass up a chance :twisted: :twisted:

dick
Linda Reynolds
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Astrid, this might be of some help......(trying not to laugh).

http://www.terrierman.com/scatanswers.htm

If you can't find the answer on that site, try Googling **scat identification** (still trying not to laugh).
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Dick,

I should have known better.....I fell right into that one :oops:

Linda,

Thank you for the link....but I cannot find the poop.....(ROFL).

Here is a picture (I cannot believe I am doing this)

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James Johnson
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Astrid

No reason for the red face. Every nest check requires dealing with a little poop. However, this is a new one on me. Jack may be right. At the risk of elevating the embarrassment factor, can you tell what the critter had eaten? :wink:
The Olsons
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Jack,

My concern is that this might be a predator who could be a potential danger for the martins, leaving his marks behind. I now am starting to think you might be right with the snake feces (see below)....

James,

I cannot see any food residues in "it", just black with a white "cap". I followed Linda's link, which let me to another and so on, and came across this question below on "yahoo answers".

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Is it rat poop or something else?
Somethings in my shed but i don't know what. It's not a mouse , cause the scattered feces is almost an inch long with a white portion at the tip, almost like a bird dropping at the end, but the rest is dark. I'm afraid cause of the size of the droppings that this thing could be huge, any ideas what it is??

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That would be snake poop, how much of it is there, if it is ALOT then i would have to say it is not snake poop, unless it has built up over time. snake pop has a very earthy, ammonia smell to it, the white part is actually their pee, it is made up or urates, they don't pee liquid to conserve water, but actually have a urethra that leads into there fecal tract, the white part is not at the tip, it is at the end.... lol. If it is snake poop, then it is the reason that you do not have rats, mice, and so forth, snakes are awesome animals and its best to leave the ones in the wild in the wild in your shed and so forth so that it might be able to help you in ways you never knew!
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Fortunately, I have bird netting and predator guards, but the thought that a snake is checking things out is still disturbing......uuuugggghhhh. What do you all think?

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James Johnson
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Astrid

Try this sight: icwdm.org/Inspection/scat.asp ·
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Astrid,i have King snakes in my shop and i pick them up and put in in a box on a high shelve when my dogs are snooping around.
Tim Mangan-Kansas
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Astrid, Astrid, Astrid:

I had to read your initial post twice to make sure my brain was correctly comprehending what my eyes were reading. :shock: We definitely need some new topics on the forum. You might as well go ahead and put your custom white fitted jacket on now; you know, the one with all the fancy snaps and buckles. I am sure that little white truck will be pulling up any minute. :lol:

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The Olsons
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James,

I did try this site earlier, and it also mentions that snakes/reptiles do have more solid dark feces with white at the end. Bird feces is more soft. Since we found a 6' rat snake in our bird netting a couple of years ago my concern is that it might be a snake roaming around. Again, I have guards and netting on my poles, but you never know.....Thank you for your replies :wink:

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Astrid, what does it smell like?
The Olsons
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Tim,

I have to pass on the white jacket for today since to me this is a discussion about a possible predator that could be a threat to my martins :grin: :grin: :grin: Sometimes you just have to start "backwards" to get the answer and I guess that is what I am doing....the truck needs to go somewhere else today :wink:

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The Olsons
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Pat,

From 5'7" up high no smell :lol: :lol: :lol: and I am not getting any closer :shock:

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Linda Reynolds
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Astrid, FYI.......one size fits all......

(Now, I am officially laughing out loud).
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Astrid, It looks like frog poop to me, i could be wrong but some of the frogs poop around my back yard look just like that.
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Wow, that's some cool looking dookie.....next time please put a ruler alongside, i want to know how big it is... LMAO

:grin:
Mary
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My guess would be Owl poop or some other large birg,hawk,goose,duck,ect.
The Olsons
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions and your humor :grin: :grin: :grin:

Linda, can I have that jacket in pink please? It would go very well with my fuzzy pink slippers :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did feel kind of weird asking for the ID and even posting a picture, but when it comes to my martins and their safety I need to be on top of EVERYTHING, even unidentified poop :oops: :roll:

I was trying to figure out if I have a reason to worry about a predator that could pose a threat to my martins. Other than the fact that you and I got a good laugh out of this I actually came across some really great information about backyard predators by following some of the links you all provided or suggestions you mentioned....I guess I had a class in "Poopology" today 8).

On a serious note, I went ahead and added even more bird netting to my "hula noodle" than I had already, just in case the snake or the frog try to climb the pole :wink:

Astrid
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