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DelmaWhisenhunt
- Posts: 778
- Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:17 am
- Location: Idabel, OK
Did a number of things to sparrows so determined not to be stopped/ now will try heavy duty masking tape, placing just inside on some of the nest and by the entrance. Know this sounds crazy, but whatever works I am voting OK. Anything to stop the damage they are doing. Feel lucky that many martins are still around and doing their best to nest. Hopeful the dudes will fly into nest cavity before they realize it is taped lined/ the sparrows not the martins. If this works will be a good Monday morning show.
Delma Whisenhunt
Idabel, OK
Martin Lover
Idabel, OK
Martin Lover
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avesrun
- Posts: 1127
- Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
- Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
- Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102
You must employ the method you're describing ina manner that guarantees martins will not be affected. Making a hole reducer with inch and a quarter hole will keep martins from entering cavity but will allow sparrows to enter.
Tim
Tim
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
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4th Gen Martin Fan
- Posts: 1498
- Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
- Location: TN/Collierville
- Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.
Delma,
Tim is right. An entrance hole reducer should be employed to exclude the purple martins.
This hole size has been discussed extensively in this post.
http://purplemartin.org/forum/viewtopic ... ht=#203619
I settled on 1 3/8" hole because that is what is on the Spar-O-Door. The Spar-O-Door has been extremely successful for me.
Someone will point out to you that other native birds must be considered in a glue/sticky tape trap. It must be monitored very closely.
Mark.
Tim is right. An entrance hole reducer should be employed to exclude the purple martins.
This hole size has been discussed extensively in this post.
http://purplemartin.org/forum/viewtopic ... ht=#203619
I settled on 1 3/8" hole because that is what is on the Spar-O-Door. The Spar-O-Door has been extremely successful for me.
Someone will point out to you that other native birds must be considered in a glue/sticky tape trap. It must be monitored very closely.
Mark.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
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avesrun
- Posts: 1127
- Joined: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm
- Location: Iowa/West Des Moines
- Martin Colony History: Home Site: 2017- 0
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
Satellite Site: 2017 (3rd season)
34 pair
Fledged- 102
Mark: Thank you very much for posting. I have been wondering for weeks why my hole reducer plate made at inch and 1/4 has never been entered by hospital yet the spar o door continues to be effective. I assumed the spar o door was same size; I believe I will make new reducer plate at 1 3/8 for my t14 . Wrens and chickadees are not an issue at this time.thanks again!
Tim
Tim
PMCA Member
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
Home Site: 2012-15 visitors
2016 - 1st pair, fledged 5
2017-18 Zero
2019- 3 Successful Pr
2020- 21pr, fledged 76
Satellite Site: 2014 - visitors
2015 - 2 pair fledged 9
2016 - 13 pair fledged 44
2017 - 31 pair fledged 118
2018 - 44 pair 163 fledged
2019- 49 pr 219 fledged
2020- 47 pr 209 fledged
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threelilkids
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:11 pm
- Location: Denham Springs, La
- Martin Colony History: 2014 1 pair 3 hatched 3 fledged
2015 1 pair 5 hatched 5 fledged
2016 1 pair 5 hatched 4 fledged
2017 2 pair 8 hatched 8 fledged
2018 4 pair 15 hatched
Good Luck Delma
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DelmaWhisenhunt
- Posts: 778
- Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:17 am
- Location: Idabel, OK
Had second thoughts about using the tape. The one nest that I would really like to render justice is so close to martins nesting. Most likely will tear sparrow nest out again and re-think my strategy. So lucky I have martins in both houses. A squirrel tried to visit again and the martins took care of him, chased and sky dived him clear out of the yard.
Delma Whisenhunt
Idabel, OK
Martin Lover
Idabel, OK
Martin Lover
Hi Delma,
I am sorry to hear you're in such a battle with those house sparrows! I have used mouse glue boards effectively to get rid of them. I have utilized two small strips of wood or plastic on each side of an SREH entrance hole, attached with duct tape. I allowed the entrance opening to be about 1 5/16 inches wide. Martins cannot get in an opening that small. I have always pushed the glue board towards the back of the compartment so a Martin looking in, could not get itself stuck.
I wish you the best of success in stopping those sparrows!
Gary
I am sorry to hear you're in such a battle with those house sparrows! I have used mouse glue boards effectively to get rid of them. I have utilized two small strips of wood or plastic on each side of an SREH entrance hole, attached with duct tape. I allowed the entrance opening to be about 1 5/16 inches wide. Martins cannot get in an opening that small. I have always pushed the glue board towards the back of the compartment so a Martin looking in, could not get itself stuck.
I wish you the best of success in stopping those sparrows!
Gary
Last edited by Gary W on Tue May 20, 2014 9:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Delma, I used to tear sparrow nest out and that seemed to set the male hosp off into a tirade of pecking eggs in every nesting cavity he could find. Lost a lot of bluebirds. After leaning that lesson, I only trap and shoot now and just leave the nest alone unless I have trapped and killed the builders of the nest.DelmaWhisenhunt wrote:Had second thoughts about using the tape. The one nest that I would really like to render justice is so close to martins nesting. Most likely will tear sparrow nest out again and re-think my strategy. So lucky I have martins in both houses. A squirrel tried to visit again and the martins took care of him, chased and sky dived him clear out of the yard.
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eyeamtheman
- Posts: 633
- Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:21 pm
- Location: Quitman, La
- Martin Colony History: Super colony
You'd be better off catching or killing them, ASAP.
Johnny
Hello everyone. I have trapped and eliminated 3 pairs of house sparrows but there is one pair that out-wits everything we try to do. The male sparrow sits on a nearby roof top chirping loudly , waits for the martins to leave then bam he is in and out of 3 compartments before I can scare him away! I am pretty good with a slingshot, hissing at him , but he will not go in where I have nest traps! I can't shoot him because we live in a residential neighborhood. We have lost 4 of our 25 eggs thus far and we now have 8 nestlings some at 8 to 10 days old. The martins just look at me now and probably think gee that crazy lady is our landlord! We have a ground trap and nest box trap and even built a bird house just for them. No luck he will sit on the fence and chirp at me! I am nest checking every 3 days and binoculars are my favorite necklace now ! We tried glue traps and that worked great but can't do that now with martins in and out feeding the nestlings! Please give me words of wisdom on how to get rid of the devil bird. Thanks!
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taxidermy lady
- Posts: 2988
- Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:21 am
- Location: IL/Ellis Grove
- Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!
He'll screw up some day. Keep at him. Good luck
Sharon from southern Illinois
