I see quite a few reports of martins out west, read one very interesting post (an older post) about his persistance and ultimate success in attracting martins to his home in Washington.
However, I don't see many out west folks posting questions or talking excitedly about their arrivals, on the Forum.
It seems to be a rare enough event to be note worthy, if there are western landlords reading, I for one would love to hear of your sucesses and challenges the western landlords face in expanding the martins range out west.
Tom
Western purple martins
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C.C.Martins
- Posts: 3368
- Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
- Location: Corpus Christi Tx
- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
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ken buker
- Posts: 76
- Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:51 pm
- Location: Washington/Silver Lake
- Martin Colony History: Started backyard colony at Silver lake in June 2004 with single pair of SY martins. Built a nest, no eggs, they left by late July. Returned 2005 and colony grew to three pair successfully raising and fledging 15 healthy young. In 2018 this colony was 110 pair strong and thriving. Managed a small colony along the lower Columbia river west of Longview, WA for a few years prior to starting my colony at Silver Lake.
Hi Tom,
Just wanted to let you know that though I'm not sure the individual post you refer to is mine, but it sure might be.
I also provided a new update on my Northwest colony status. I posted it on the form this evening.
There are more martin enthusiast near me than there use to be and that's a very good thing. I personally know of four or five colonies within a 50 mile radius from my colony site. Interesting thing is that they use commercial racks and gourds as I do, though that's not always been the case.
Here on the west coast for many years, we believed that our birds needed to be treated differently and thus provided habitat based on historic assumptions about martins. My early experience as a martin enthusiast even as a member of our local organization was that martins rarely accepted multi cluster arrangements on gourd racks and never utilize compartment houses like T-14's. Instead we placed wooden boxes on pilings and poles spaced apart from one another to give the birds room. When gourds were used, they too were spaced about four feet apart so it was common to have a tall pole with two arms (one above the other) with a total of four to eight gourds.
I must admit that in my early years I wanted to think like a martin and preferred natural gourds but they are a lot of work and I've learned they like and accept commercial gourds willingly and they are much easier to maintain than natural gourds. I'll try posting a few pictures in the future. Last time I tried (2017) I couldn't get them loaded, but I'll try again.
Ken Buker
Silver Lake, WA.
112 active pair the last few years.
Just wanted to let you know that though I'm not sure the individual post you refer to is mine, but it sure might be.
I also provided a new update on my Northwest colony status. I posted it on the form this evening.
There are more martin enthusiast near me than there use to be and that's a very good thing. I personally know of four or five colonies within a 50 mile radius from my colony site. Interesting thing is that they use commercial racks and gourds as I do, though that's not always been the case.
Here on the west coast for many years, we believed that our birds needed to be treated differently and thus provided habitat based on historic assumptions about martins. My early experience as a martin enthusiast even as a member of our local organization was that martins rarely accepted multi cluster arrangements on gourd racks and never utilize compartment houses like T-14's. Instead we placed wooden boxes on pilings and poles spaced apart from one another to give the birds room. When gourds were used, they too were spaced about four feet apart so it was common to have a tall pole with two arms (one above the other) with a total of four to eight gourds.
I must admit that in my early years I wanted to think like a martin and preferred natural gourds but they are a lot of work and I've learned they like and accept commercial gourds willingly and they are much easier to maintain than natural gourds. I'll try posting a few pictures in the future. Last time I tried (2017) I couldn't get them loaded, but I'll try again.
Ken Buker
Silver Lake, WA.
112 active pair the last few years.
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C.C.Martins
- Posts: 3368
- Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:15 am
- Location: Corpus Christi Tx
- Martin Colony History: 2016- Visitors.
2017- 5 pair. 15 fledged
2018- 18 pair. 85 fledged
2019- 17 pair. 81 fledged
2020- 25 pair. 111 fledged
2021- 28 pair. 118 fledged
2022- 33 pair. 151 fledged
2023- 33 pair. 165 fledged
2024- 40 pair. 185 fledged
2025- 40 pair. 181 fledged
HOSP:
Home colony: mix natural, super, Troyer and excluder gourds, enlarged compartment house. All SREH.
Satellite colony: Oso Bay Preserve: 49 PMCA excluder gourds; 16 room Lonestar Goliad with Modified Excluder entrances.
2019: Visitors
2020: 3 pair, 11 fledged
2021: 10 pair, 30 fledged
2022: 11 pair, 35 fledged
2023: 18 pair, 101 fledged
2024: 39 pair, 181 fledged
2025: 51 pair, 216 fledged
PMCA member
Yes sir it was! I do appreciate you reaching out like this; 112 pair, a very strong colony!
I find that family fascinating, I suppose they go to Brazil during the off season as the rest of them. All I know is what Iv read-they dont necessarily accept colony type homes, some biologists were watching a few pairs in some old growth snags, apparently they were very secretive and finally yes, homes on pilings that were accepted. Seemed a solitary existence and the difference from what Iv experienced is striking. However, you dashed all that thankfully!
Im glad to hear that your colony isn't just doing well but thriving, as are your neighbors colony's. I'd imagine you experience the same challenges (cavity nesting sparrows and starlings), our starling pressure is so high we haven no choice but to use starling resistant entrances and chase/kill sparrows to no end.
My wife is from Trinidad in the Caribbean, so of course i read up on the Caribbean martin; seems the same old west coast model applies; solitary, nest where they can...I doubt very much anyone there has tried gourds...if they did they would be successful.
I saw your update so will keep this short sir, tough to have two threads going-Id be interested in pictures!
Wish you all the best this season,
Tom
I find that family fascinating, I suppose they go to Brazil during the off season as the rest of them. All I know is what Iv read-they dont necessarily accept colony type homes, some biologists were watching a few pairs in some old growth snags, apparently they were very secretive and finally yes, homes on pilings that were accepted. Seemed a solitary existence and the difference from what Iv experienced is striking. However, you dashed all that thankfully!
Im glad to hear that your colony isn't just doing well but thriving, as are your neighbors colony's. I'd imagine you experience the same challenges (cavity nesting sparrows and starlings), our starling pressure is so high we haven no choice but to use starling resistant entrances and chase/kill sparrows to no end.
My wife is from Trinidad in the Caribbean, so of course i read up on the Caribbean martin; seems the same old west coast model applies; solitary, nest where they can...I doubt very much anyone there has tried gourds...if they did they would be successful.
I saw your update so will keep this short sir, tough to have two threads going-Id be interested in pictures!
Wish you all the best this season,
Tom
A good house sparrow is a dead house sparrow.
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
HOSP: 17. Starlings: 23
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flyin-lowe
- Posts: 3789
- Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:49 am
- Location: Indiana/Henry Co.
I would love to see some banding studies done on your martin colony. With that many pair, and only a few colonies within 5o miles of you it would be interesting to see how the SY's disperse upon their first arrival. I wander if you have more SY return to your own colony than we do in the east, where more colonies are available for them. I assume "mother nature" leads them back to the west their first year but wander if any of them follow the typical migrating birds back to the east.
2026 HOSP 27
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
2025 62 pair HOSP 20
2024 60 pair, HOSP 44
2023 60+ pair, HOSP 8
2022 60 nests with 262 eggs, HOSP 14
2021 62 pair, HOSP 9
2020 42 nest, HOSP 8
2019- 31 pair
2018- 15 pair 49 fledged
2017 3 SY pair, 12 eggs , fledged 10. 4 additional lone SY's
2016 1 pair fledged 4
2015 Visitors
2014 Visitors
2013 Moved 6 miles, 1 pair fledged 2.
2012 30 pair fledged 100.
2011 12 pair 43 fledged.
2010 5 pair 14 fledged.
